Wolfie: Yes2AV or No2AV that is the question for the British referendum on the 5th of May 2011

Friday 22 April 2011

Yes2AV or No2AV that is the question for the British referendum on the 5th of May 2011

If we vote yes we still don’t have proportional representation, so is it better leave the system as it is and then fight for STV as a proportional system or is it better to vote yes and see a change that doesn’t deliver proportional representation but ends FPTP? If only we could engineer a 50/50 split and force the coalition and opposition into giving the people of Britain a choice between AMS, AV, FPTP and STV then we would have two proportional options AMS and STV and two non-proportional options AV and FPTP to choose from. Maybe that’s too dangerous because the people may vote for PR and real democracy.

http://leftalternatives.myfineforum.org/ftopic199-0-0-asc-.php

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Wolfie22 April 2011 at 18:42
Support for AV collapsing, according to Guardian/ICM poll

For those of use on the Left who want to see proportional representation as the eventual winner now that support for AV is falling is our best tactic to support the Yes2AV and vote against the NOtoAV lobby as in the latest poll the no vote stands at 58% and the yes vote at 42%. Either way we don’t get STV or AMS which are proportional systems. So should our tactic be to attempt to engineer a 50/50 split, thus keeping the debate on electoral reform open so that it force the coalition and opposition into giving the people of Britain a choice between AMS, AV, FPTP and STV. Then we would have two proportional options AMS and STV and two non-proportional options AV and FPTP to choose from. Maybe that’s too dangerous because the people may vote for PR and real democracy. The Communist Party has advised a no vote but as the non-progressive parties are the biggest winners if the NOtoAV camp wins is this still the best tactic in light of the latest poll.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politic...t-av-collapsing-guardian-icm-poll
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Wolfie24 April 2011 at 19:49
I’ve been in favour of proportional representation as long as I have been aware of it and therefore the need for the democratic process to be reformed. Between AMS and STV, so my vote will be tactical, with the objective of weakening the current system and forcing proportional representation on to the political agenda. As the opinion polls show a majority for FPTP, I have moved from voting no to AV to voting no to FPTP so that it’s as close to 50/50 as possible. If the opinion polls had shown a majority for AV, then I would be voting the other way around, CPB policy is to vote No2AV as its been Communist Party policy to support STV against FPTP for over sixty years but as the current opinion polls show a majority in favour of FPTP this could back fire.

It’s a gamble but taking account of the polls. I think it will be down to activists on the Left and progressives in the Labour and Liberal-Democratic parties to put PR back onto the political agenda if the result is tight, which is the most desirable result regardless of which way, it would be better if it was just in favour of FPTP but that seems less probable and if they get a clear majority then the argument for change will be lost, so as I say I’ve switched position. It’s a gamble and I won’t know if I have chosen correctly until we have the results
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Wolfie24 April 2011 at 19:54
AV result could be determined by Londoners

A "mock AV" poll conducted in England and Scotland by YouGov for the Institute of Public Policy Research in the first week of April revealed that Londoners were split down the middle, with 34% saying they would vote yes, and 35% saying they would oppose change.
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Wolfie25 April 2011 at 16:17
Hold Your Nose and Vote for AV

http://leftalternatives.myfineforum.org/sutra6481.php#6481
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Yes2AV or No2AV that is the question for the British referendum on the 5th of May 2011

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